Mason Chat

BorkBot claimed citizen in his last post of the day. I honestly don't see what we have to lose...
I was hoping you would recruit me on N3 instead of Blazer when I made such an obviously fake investigator claim... T.T

I had to resort to making huge posts in large green text to get recruited

Also, do you think there are really 2 corrupt journalists? Maybe I'm paranoid, but there is a possibility of a Jester still out there and one of the journalists was an actress. I diagrammed out a double actress scenario for myself and it seems a little "conspiracy theory"-y so I won't post it here.... I find it likely that Goremancer was corrupt journalist, because of his desire to prove himself at night. I also find it likely that Mopin was corrupt journalist due to his way of writing in journal comments and his last will.

Here is the current role list I am currently toying around with:
Godfather - CmG (because of the incriminating role block from FrostByte on N2)
Consig - Rihfok (because I don't buy that Rihfok if town invest would check CmG at night.... Not oj mafia b/c found us Nick)
Actress - Kony (Due to death note, I feel like he has to be actress, disguised as Fabricator.. Just a hunch)

Janitor - Nick
Fabricator - Blazer? (This is the scenario if Kony was actress. If Kony actually Fabricator, maybe Blazer red maf)
Framer - Deathfire123 (can frame self to appear detective... Why else were his detective results wrong...?)

Corrupt Journalist - Mopin
Corrupt Journalist - Goremancer

Insane Cop - Fragos
Investigator - Dust
Hidden Town (Cop? if nick is to be trusted) - Phyr
Cop/Cit - BorkBot
Med Student - FrostByte
Mason - GriM-Demon
Sleuth - Escaho
Cit - Ubernox
Cit/mason - Sumikoko
Cit/mason - Rocshi
Cit/mason - clementine
Cit - McPwnage

Due to conflict of investigation results:

Maybe Rihfok red mafia who made up a fake result on BorkBot, and inferred a correct result on Dust, and the two things that fill up these slots are ___ = oj fabricator, so they knew who to disguise Kony as and another random person... They would have sent Rihfok to kill Kony (in the actress scenario) because they might worry CmG would be role blocked N4, even though FrostByte was AFK. Thus, Rihfok couldn't investigate N4 and thus produced the CmG result.

Name	Role	N1	N2	N3	N4
CmG	Godfather	Kill McPwnage	Kill ??//ROLEBLOCKED	Kill Nick	-
Rihfok	Consigliere	BorkBot -cit/etc	?Blazer -vestfold fabricator?	Nick - Janitor	Kill Kony
Kony	Actress	-	-	?Disguise Vestfold Fab?	KILLED by Rihfok

Pending what happens tomorrow,

11 people alive right now:
4 maf, 7 town

Tomorrow:
4 maf r&o, 5 town UNLESS we get a med student heal.
FrostByte will most likely be killed tonight, along with someone else.
Lynch Deathfire unless he proves himself beyond a doubt to be Detective. We can HOPE that Kony was orange mafia like he appeared in the grave... and get rid of 1KPN and have a chance to win this.

Pretty sure Rihfok mafia, Dust Town, although not 100% sure.

Day after:
3 mafia r&o, 3 town UNLESS 3 mafia red, 4 town
-If 3 mafia, 2 red, 1 orange, things get messy, and town could win if mafia target each other, red mafia could win, orange mafia could still win if they get a favorable lynch off.... It's kind of a toss up and really situational what strategies I would recommend we use.
-If 3 red mafia, 4 town, we hopefully don't mislynch and then we win! (I believe this is unlikely...)

Can I vote to send GriM to recruit BorkBot

If GriM already sent in his own directions or doesn't check this, I just hope he doesn't try to recruit CmG who we pretty much have known the whole game is evillllllll.

I'll accept that. CmG is always scum and we can easily start a bandwagon. I agree that Rihfok may be red consig.

My theory is that Kony was not an actress, I have no idea why everyone has such a boner for that. That means that we have 3 red maf, 1 orange maf.

My theory:

CmG- Red GF
Rihfok-Red Consig
FrostByte- Red Consort (Med student claim is scummy as fuck, I learned the hard way in M-FM III. I don't believe it) OR Blazer- Red Framer (both of these options are equally possible)

Dust-Orange Consig

Blazer-Jester (we can't recruit him, so this is the only possibility, if he isn't framer)

In order for Blazer to be Jester, one of the neutrals has to have been an actress, acting as the corrupt journalist which is totally possible.... but which mafia team do you think they are from?

clementine wrote:Can I vote to send GriM to recruit BorkBot

If GriM already sent in his own directions or doesn't check this, I just hope he doesn't try to recruit CmG who we pretty much have known the whole game is evillllllll.

You can vote who you want to send unless Grim overrides it. Current action:

Recruit BorkBot, Send Grim-Demon

Well, that went poorly. Then again, just voting and leaving at the start of the day isn't all that helpful. Even if Blazer should have given his results YESTERDAY, so we could actually have had some time to think about them. And he should have warned the masons NOT to recruit him. He also contributed absolutely nothing to the day chat, so he kind of had it coming.

But Grim-Demon, I really think you're not even trying. All the energy you spent complaining about not getting into FMXII would've been much better spent reading the night chat. The red mafia knows with 100% certainty that I'm a mason now and I'm going to die because I'm the only confirmed townie who still tries to get some discussion going during the day. CmG has been systematically killing off active masons and I know I'm next.

If the orange mafia kills a red mafia tonight, we could in theory still win this game, but it would require both of you to be on top of your game and I'm not sure if you are willing to put in the effort.

I do still suspect that Ubernox may have been a red actress. Fragos might be a whore... but I've suspected him to be scum since the beginning and I was probably right.

I was roleblocked last night and Deathfire knew about it. So he is either a red mafia consort or a medical student/escort who was dumb and used his block on me instead of CmG. Unless FrostByte "healed" me and it turned into a block because he skipped his night 4 action? I don't think that's how the medical student works though. Their action changes each night regardless of them using it or not. Neither Dust nor Rihfok shared their results today. So Dust is probably orange mafia who let the red mafia know that the vote was safe...

I'd suggest sending Rocshi to recruit CmG tonight, but I doubt it'll do us any good because he's 99% GF. The only possibility that he isn't GF is if an actress got killed and all the PR claims except one investigator are lying.

Recruit CmG, send Rocshi

As a side-note... Sumikoko was right. I have been asking you to recruit me since day 2. Sadly, you went for Blazer instead...

So we have:
Godfather - CmG
Red maf 2 - Deathfire?
Red maf 3 - Ubernox? / Fragos?

Fabricator - Kony
Janitor - Nick
Orange maf 3 - Dust?

3 masons
1 investigator - Rihfok?
Maybe 1 more town if Ubernox is actress - Deathfire? / Fragos?

Deathfire seemed to instruct the remaining orange mafia to kill the "other investigator." Or maybe he IS the orange mafia and telling the red mafia who he was going to kill... but that wouldn't make sense if he was still trying to win himself.

HERE IS THE PLAN IF YOU STILL WANT TO TRY TO WIN, WHICH IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE ORANGE MAFIA WILL BE TRYING TO KILL THE RED TONIGHT. IT WILL THEN BE 2v3v1 AND THE ORANGE MAFIA WILL HELP WITH LYNCHING A RED. JUST DON'T BE AFK THE WHOLE BLOODY DAY.

If 1 red mafia dies tomorrow and the recruit fails, we lynch CmG to ensure that the orange and red mafias are still competing with each other.

If 1 red mafia dies tomorrow and the recruit succeeds, we will know that Ubernox was an actress and that everyone except 1 investigator is mafia. So then you can safely lynch Fragos or Deathfire.

If there are still 2 kills after that, we will know for sure that Ubernox wasn't an actress.

If it comes down to 1 mason vs 1 red mafia vs 1 orange mafia in 2 days, DON'T VOTE FOR EITHER OF THEM. Let them decide if they want to kill each other or let the other guy win. Or make it a "nobody wins" game.


If 2 mafias kill each other tonight, great. We can discuss new plans openly during the day then.

I'm actually quite sure that Dust is orange consigliere now...

He asked the masons to be clear about who they recruited so that he could kill a red mafia tonight. However, he should be able to do the math and see that 2 investigators is impossible. So Rihfok should die tonight.

If Rihfok is red consig, then Fragos/Deathfire has to be orange mafia, and they should kill each other.

In the worst case scenario (2 town die tomorrow), the red mafia win is guaranteed.

Your night action:

Recruit CmG, Send Rocshi

WHELP...

Looks like we're both going to die.

IF only the orange mafia kills me and nobody else dies, then it's possible that Ubernox was a RED ACTRESS and it will be 0v3v1. Or it'll be Dust playing smart and trying to make us think it's 0v3v1 (I don't think Rihfok would think of this). Either way, it's probably best to gamble and lynch Fragos in this case, because if we were to go for a no lynch and 2 night kills followed the night after, the town would almost definitely lose (1 mafia dead and 1 town dead = mafia win. 2 town dead = nobody wins.

IF two townies are dead, then the last remaining town should not vote for either mafia player. Just skip the day and let them decide if they want to kill each other and give the town the win, or kill the town and let the other mafia win. If they want to have a shot at winning themselves, they HAVE TO shoot the other mafia. If they lynch YOU together, that also means that both mafias lose because they will kill each other the next night.

Nobody wins, GG!

Recruit Fragos, send Grim-Demon

If that speeds up the night :p

BorkBot wrote:Recruit Fragos, send Grim-Demon

If that speeds up the night :p

nope